Comments on: Product Review: The tinySA, a Shirt-Pocket Sized Spectrum Analyzer https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/ Fresh hacks every day Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:11:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Bob Chmielewski https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6385443 Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:11:34 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6385443 I have extensive experience with China, both as a project manager on petrochemical projects and equipment supply. Chinese Products can be good or bad. The main issue is quality control, there are many US companies that manufacture things in China and the only way to insure you are getting what you specified is to have your own QA/QC people on site.

Someone mentioned steel in a previous post. I worked with a company that purchased 6 very large drilling rigs from a Chinese supplier. When the rigs arrived in the US they were sent to a yard in Texas to install additional equip. The dropped a stand of drill pipe and it hit a crossmember. The results were not pretty. When the steel was check in a lab it wasn’t even good enough to be used as rebar. There was documentation on all of the steel and it was all stamped stating that the steel was all checked and passed. All of the paper was fictitious. The Chinese company was sued in Chinese courts and they found that the cheating was so blatant that they awarded the US company damages.

The moral of the story is that the products from China are only as good as the Quality inspectors. It is always best to talk to other people who have purchased the product for their reviews.

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By: mobile_bob https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6379866 Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:24:40 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6379866 china can deliver a product for any market, you want cheap? they can deliver cheap, you want middle of the road, they can do that too, you want top quality? oh yes they can deliver with the best.

if you think they as a people are inferior to western people in production capability, you would be sadly wrong. if you think they can’t built top quality production facilities, again you would be sadly mistaken.

to simply blather on about china building shit, is to sit back and find out they have passed you by.

i am old enough to remember that japanese manufactured stuff was crap! and we all made a joke of it, all the while they kept their heads down and improved… while we kept on building crap cars and all manner of other stuff, because we could get away with it… then one day we found out that “hey those honda car’s run like forever, and my gm/ford/chrysler cars barely run to 100k (and in many cases far less)”

we woke up in the late 70’s way behind what we once thought of as a producer of crap! and took us a long time to catch up again. that is if we actually did catch up, and that is arguable.

as this relates to the tinysa? again i am old enough to remember being in tech school in the early 70’s and we only had one spectrum analyzer in the class, and no one was allowed to use it that i know of, because they were bloody expensive.

does the tinysa have the ability to compete with a 10k dollar (or more) spectrum analyzer? no, but… it gets close enough for a lot of people, especially if you really try to learn how to work with and around its shortcomings.

hell i could never afford an hp or other lab quality spectrum analyzers, but i can surely afford a tinysa! and for the 64 bucks delivered it is probably the best 64 bucks i have ever spent on a piece of test equipment!

and from what i have learned so far watching folks put the tinysa up against lab quality spectrum analyzers, the tinysa is good enough for the girls i run with!

i suspect in the next 10 years there will be more coming from china that will change a lot of minds, even those that are reticent of change will have to admit they have passed us up… that is unless we take the challenge seriously now!

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By: Keith Everett https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6345166 Sun, 02 May 2021 21:32:14 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6345166 In reply to ytrewq.

Same here.

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By: Alex Pannis https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6341789 Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:27:08 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6341789 In reply to RubyPanther.

I have been buying parts from China for 20 years. One reason for this is their superior quality compared to western products, and this for only a fraction of the price.
Last year, there were 25 million more companies in China than there were in the US.
There are always companies who trick people. And this is true for China as well as it is for western countries. It’s a question of statistics: the more companies there are, the more bad ones there will be, even if the good/bad percentage stays the same.
So, there are more companies in China who will provide bad stuff, simply because there are many more companies there. With this in mind, one has to be very careful with doing business with companies over there. The companies have to be carefully verified first. Only after trust is established and verifications have been achieved successfully can business interactions begin.
There is an awful lot of good companies in China. But it’s the few bad ones who give a bad reputation to all the rest. I did have bad experiences with some companies in China. But after learning how to establish if a company can be trusted or not, I now have excellent parts for a very low price.
Their industry is highly mechanized, and technologically at the top. They produce in huge quantities and have low prices. Still, as I mentioned, their quality is higher and higher.
Another point to their advantage is that all the related industries are close together. There are no
transportation costs. Companies making transformers are close to companies making copper wires…
The dark side lies on how they treat their employees. But this seems to be changing with the years.
There are many different fields in business. The industrial field is not the same as consumer
field and a good proportion of the “bad” companies are precisely in the consumer field. although there is a great difference now compared to a few years ago: It’s getting better over the years.

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By: PeteS https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6334558 Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:10:41 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6334558 In reply to Ren.

https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-03-25

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By: Bilbo https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6317482 Mon, 01 Feb 2021 04:33:32 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6317482 In reply to ET.

Why would it be lab quality? Its a $60 piece of equipment. why do people always want Ferrari performance from a Volkswagon beetle? Get real people.

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By: Bradley Berthold https://hackaday.com/2020/11/09/product-review-the-tinysa-a-shirt-pocket-sized-spectrum-analyzer/#comment-6300852 Sun, 06 Dec 2020 21:25:45 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=434820#comment-6300852 Nice to see proof that the Baofengs aren’t as bad as crudgedly old HAMS want to believe

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